Cap Badges

fred · 01-28-2004, 01:34 PM

Can you hep me Gentlemen.

I have three cap badges one is a two piece normal cap badge. When did they stop making two piece and please what are the other two badges. Maybe one is for railway troops. What is big badge.

and If maybe one other question when did 6 sided shoulder rank boards replace 5 sided.

Thank you

Fred

***Taz*** · 01-28-2004, 03:21 PM

Fred,
The large pin on the right looks like an Oktoberists/Pioneer so called Ultimate Star Pin.
Here is what looks like a later pin version.

Eddie

***Taz*** · 01-28-2004, 03:59 PM

The middle Badge is a Cap-badge of the USSR PCMC.
Which was introduced in 1932 simultaneously with the introduction of the first Soviet uniform for railwaymen.

Eddie

fred · 01-28-2004, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taz

The middle Badge is a Cap-badge of the USSR PCMC.
Which was introduced in 1932 simultaneously with the introduction of the first Soviet uniform for railwaymen.

Eddie

Thank you Taz.

Fred

otlichnik · 01-29-2004, 02:21 AM

Fred,

Nice hat badges.

I am pretty sure that the one on the right is an earlier Militsia (police) cap badge and not an Oktobrists star. It is definitely a hat badge.

The two piece ones remained in use but for officer hats. They are rarer than the one piece.

I have never been able to find out the exact decree or instruction which changed the shoulder boards from 5 sided to 6 sided but all anecdotal evidence points to 1947.

Shawn

***Taz*** · 01-29-2004, 07:48 AM

Shawn,

Sorry, I meant Badge not pin for the right hand one.

The Soviet Emblem is certainly the same in all Militia cap Badges I,ve seen but one thing bothers me, and that is that all Militia Badges that I have found are of the Cockade type/style I haven,t actually seen a Star type Militia Badge with the Soviet Emblem in the middle, could you post a pic if you have one please.
The picture of the pin I posted was the closest resembleance I found to Freds Cap badge in the form of a Star.

Eddie.

fred · 01-29-2004, 11:48 AM

Thank you Shawn and Eddie for your help

fred

otlichnik · 01-30-2004, 03:12 AM

The star with coat-of-arms in the middle was the official militsia cap badge (for most hats) from 1935 to 1950. However, the number of ribbons on the coat-of-arms varied from 6 in 1935, 10 around 1940 or so to 15 in 1947. The badge on the right is a nice rare 1940s (WWII era) militsia cap badge!

Shawn

***Taz*** · 01-30-2004, 03:32 AM

Shawn,
Thanks, thats put my mind to rest.
So Freds got a nice set of Badges there and quite rare too.

fred · 01-30-2004, 01:48 PM

Thank you again gentlemen, you teach me something.

I see these on market and I not much interested in hats and badges but these looked so good.

Maybe I get more interested in these badges I certainly will after your information.

Here is the back they are not worn I think.

fred

01-28-2004, 03:59 PM	#3
*Taz* Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Herford, Germany Age: 51 Posts: 2,918	Cap-badge of the USSR PCMC The middle Badge is a Cap-badge of the USSR PCMC. Which was introduced in 1932 simultaneously with the introduction of the first Soviet uniform for railwaymen. Eddie __________________ Everybodys equal, But some more than others! "Who will come to us with a sword - will be killed by a sword" - citation of Alexander Nevski Last edited by Taz; 01-28-2004 at 06:14 PM.

01-29-2004, 07:48 AM	#6
*Taz* Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Herford, Germany Age: 51 Posts: 2,918	Militia Cap Badge Shawn, Sorry, I meant Badge not pin for the right hand one. The Soviet Emblem is certainly the same in all Militia cap Badges I,ve seen but one thing bothers me, and that is that all Militia Badges that I have found are of the Cockade type/style I haven,t actually seen a Star type Militia Badge with the Soviet Emblem in the middle, could you post a pic if you have one please. The picture of the pin I posted was the closest resembleance I found to Freds Cap badge in the form of a Star. Eddie. __________________ Everybodys equal, But some more than others! "Who will come to us with a sword - will be killed by a sword" - citation of Alexander Nevski

01-30-2004, 03:32 AM	#9
*Taz* Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Herford, Germany Age: 51 Posts: 2,918	Shawn, Thanks, thats put my mind to rest. So Freds got a nice set of Badges there and quite rare too. __________________ Everybodys equal, But some more than others! "Who will come to us with a sword - will be killed by a sword" - citation of Alexander Nevski

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01-29-2004, 02:21 AM	#5
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Currently in Bosnia Age: 42 Posts: 852	Fred, Nice hat badges. I am pretty sure that the one on the right is an earlier Militsia (police) cap badge and not an Oktobrists star. It is definitely a hat badge. The two piece ones remained in use but for officer hats. They are rarer than the one piece. I have never been able to find out the exact decree or instruction which changed the shoulder boards from 5 sided to 6 sided but all anecdotal evidence points to 1947. Shawn

01-29-2004, 11:48 AM	#7
fred Dead Email Account Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Riga Posts: 39	Thank you Shawn and Eddie for your help fred

01-30-2004, 03:12 AM	#8
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Currently in Bosnia Age: 42 Posts: 852	The star with coat-of-arms in the middle was the official militsia cap badge (for most hats) from 1935 to 1950. However, the number of ribbons on the coat-of-arms varied from 6 in 1935, 10 around 1940 or so to 15 in 1947. The badge on the right is a nice rare 1940s (WWII era) militsia cap badge! Shawn

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