Orders and medals of the USSR (Shishkov / Muzalevsky) - Page 4

medalklector · 10-21-2005, 04:19 AM

I would love a copy of this book. Could someone please PM with any details that could help me obtain a copy. :-)

Cheers

Dolf · 10-21-2005, 01:40 PM

Guys,

In the meantime I saw another apparently new edition, on a Russian site, it seems that this one is only in 1 volume! (That's what I've been told, but which I can't confirm as I can't read Russian

)

As I'm not sure if I can post the link (that would be useful for those speaking Russian to help us understand about this "new edition"), here is just a pic from that site.

The only difference I can see is that on this cover the letters are black rather than gold as in the 2 volumes edition discussed on this thread.

Dolf

Christophe · 10-22-2005, 02:24 AM

I have this book in 2 volumes, and think it is a very valuable one, even if ,as already said, it would need an update (as PMD's one...).

What is really interesting and a "plus" is the "statistical part" : chronology of awarding, and some lists of multi-awarded orders by SN.

The book in 2 volumes is around 750 pages... I would be interested in knowing more about this 1 volume edition. Just hope the statistical parts have not been suppressed...

Cheers.

Ch.

Dolf · 10-22-2005, 06:44 AM

Christophe,

Again thank you for the extra info provided.

I'm PMing you the link to that Russian site where I apparently there is a new edition available. Hope you can read Russian and confirm if indeed it's a 1 volume edition.

Best,

Dolf

Christophe · 10-22-2005, 09:06 AM

Dolf,

I can't confirm it is a 1 volume edition, as it is not specified in this link (no precise details in fact).
An internaut asked the question about this. I don't know whether he will get an answer or not... Let's see !!

The asked price is 4200 RR, the equivalent of 120-125 Euros.

Cheers.

Ch.

Dolf · 10-29-2005, 06:36 AM

Gentlemen,

I received my two volumes early this week and despite the poor quality pics and the relatively poor english translation (the only two negative aspects I can find on these books so far) this is imho an outstanding reference book!
It contains a large amount of useful and important information not provided in PMD's Guide, such as a very interesting Statistical part (listing just as an example the names of people awarded 7 times with the Order of the Red Banner, etc), a Chronology of dates (by years) and the S/Ns of the Awards issued, Tables with the weight of each of the precious metals (Gold, Silver, Platinium, etc) that an Order is made of, but also the total weight and size of each Award, among other things... really impressive!
Personnaly I don't include the fact it doesn't list the Awards Statutes in the negative aspects, because as mentioned by the authors this information can be found in other publications, and because I do have PMD's Guide.
So I'm really 100% satisfied with my purchase and have to consider it highly recommended for any serious Soviet Awards collector!

Just my two cents,

Dolf

Christophe · 10-29-2005, 06:44 AM

Dolf,

Bravo !! I'm happy for you. That's a great book to have !!

Cheers.

Ch.

Christophe · 04-27-2008, 12:48 PM

Is also published since 2003, in the same collection : "Awards of Russia (1698-1917)" by Sergey Shishkov. 3 volumes. Published by Photostudio, Vladivostok, 2003. 1000 copies.

A site now exist with abstracts of all the volumes of the serie :
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Ch.

Christophe · 04-27-2008, 12:52 PM

And a fantastic new one, dedicated to awards of the Russia of today. "Awards of Contemporary Russia" (1991-2006) by Sergey shishkov - 2 vol. - 2006 - 1000 copies.

Ch.

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10-21-2005, 04:19 AM	#31
medalklector Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: London Posts: 134	I would love a copy of this book. Could someone please PM with any details that could help me obtain a copy. :-) Cheers

10-22-2005, 02:24 AM	#33
Christophe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paris, France Age: 45 Posts: 2,405	I have this book in 2 volumes, and think it is a very valuable one, even if ,as already said, it would need an update (as PMD's one...). What is really interesting and a "plus" is the "statistical part" : chronology of awarding, and some lists of multi-awarded orders by SN. The book in 2 volumes is around 750 pages... I would be interested in knowing more about this 1 volume edition. Just hope the statistical parts have not been suppressed... Cheers. Ch.

10-22-2005, 06:44 AM	#34
Dolf Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Age: 52 Posts: 1,510	Christophe, Again thank you for the extra info provided. I'm PMing you the link to that Russian site where I apparently there is a new edition available. Hope you can read Russian and confirm if indeed it's a 1 volume edition. Best, Dolf

10-22-2005, 09:06 AM	#35
Christophe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paris, France Age: 45 Posts: 2,405	Dolf, I can't confirm it is a 1 volume edition, as it is not specified in this link (no precise details in fact). An internaut asked the question about this. I don't know whether he will get an answer or not... Let's see !! The asked price is 4200 RR, the equivalent of 120-125 Euros. Cheers. Ch.

10-29-2005, 06:36 AM	#36
Dolf Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Age: 52 Posts: 1,510	Gentlemen, I received my two volumes early this week and despite the poor quality pics and the relatively poor english translation (the only two negative aspects I can find on these books so far) this is imho an outstanding reference book! It contains a large amount of useful and important information not provided in PMD's Guide, such as a very interesting Statistical part (listing just as an example the names of people awarded 7 times with the Order of the Red Banner, etc), a Chronology of dates (by years) and the S/Ns of the Awards issued, Tables with the weight of each of the precious metals (Gold, Silver, Platinium, etc) that an Order is made of, but also the total weight and size of each Award, among other things... really impressive! Personnaly I don't include the fact it doesn't list the Awards Statutes in the negative aspects, because as mentioned by the authors this information can be found in other publications, and because I do have PMD's Guide. So I'm really 100% satisfied with my purchase and have to consider it highly recommended for any serious Soviet Awards collector! Just my two cents, Dolf

10-29-2005, 06:44 AM	#37
Christophe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paris, France Age: 45 Posts: 2,405	Dolf, Bravo !! I'm happy for you. That's a great book to have !! Cheers. Ch.

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