What is this document?

***Tal Inbar*** · 09-26-2002, 11:24 AM

I believe that many of you know that it is part of a huge group for sale (modest price of $24,500.....).

Could you tell my what is this doc?

***Tal Inbar*** · 09-26-2002, 11:25 AM

Inside:

Mahdi · 09-26-2002, 06:20 PM

Hmm. Interesting.

Well, I am bad when it comes to using the English terminology in reference to technical terms, but what I can tell you is that this is some form of ID pass that lets you in some area, probably with a higher level of security.

The word on the outside (Propusk), which is actually repeated once on the inside, means "Pass".

The ID was issued to Ivan Mikhailovich Afanin, and signed by the commander (Russian ~ Komendant).

I tried to read the words on the seal, and out of 4 words I can decipher 3: "????? Akademii Gen. Shtaba" which literally translates to:

"????? of the Academy of the General Headquarters". Genshtab is basically where the top of the top are. (the upper command)

Hope this helps at least a little.

Mahdi

Alexscl · 09-27-2002, 02:14 AM

Very good translation!

The first word on the seal is Comendatura - commandant's office

The Commandant's office of the Academy of the General Headquarters

Regards
Alex

Alexscl · 09-27-2002, 02:18 AM

Propusk = Permit

otlichnik · 09-27-2002, 02:49 AM

The document is a standard pass for an instructor at the General Staff Academy of the Soviet MoD - it was called the Voroshilov Academy for much of its existance.

The Kommendantura's office was responsible for issuing passes.

It is not for any specific high security zone although the entire academy was a secure site.

I have seen many similar propuski/passes, but never one for the General Staff Academy - very nice!!

Shawn

***Tal Inbar*** · 09-27-2002, 05:34 AM

Thanks!

It is interesting to see that general Afonin's wife had a pass too (maybe she used to visit him at work...):

***Nota Bene*** · 09-27-2002, 04:11 PM

Tal,

I believe this is one of those unmarked passes to a special clinic. This would explain whay she also had one.

Alexei

09-27-2002, 02:14 AM	#4
Alexscl Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Russia Age: 34 Posts: 26	Addition Very good translation! The first word on the seal is Comendatura - commandant's office The Commandant's office of the Academy of the General Headquarters Regards Alex

09-27-2002, 02:18 AM	#5
Alexscl Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Russia Age: 34 Posts: 26	Propusk Propusk = Permit

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09-26-2002, 06:20 PM	#3
Mahdi Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: USA Age: 26 Posts: 156	Hmm. Interesting. Well, I am bad when it comes to using the English terminology in reference to technical terms, but what I can tell you is that this is some form of ID pass that lets you in some area, probably with a higher level of security. The word on the outside (Propusk), which is actually repeated once on the inside, means "Pass". The ID was issued to Ivan Mikhailovich Afanin, and signed by the commander (Russian ~ Komendant). I tried to read the words on the seal, and out of 4 words I can decipher 3: "????? Akademii Gen. Shtaba" which literally translates to: "????? of the Academy of the General Headquarters". Genshtab is basically where the top of the top are. (the upper command) Hope this helps at least a little. Mahdi

09-27-2002, 02:49 AM	#6
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Currently in Bosnia Age: 40 Posts: 861	The document is a standard pass for an instructor at the General Staff Academy of the Soviet MoD - it was called the Voroshilov Academy for much of its existance. The Kommendantura's office was responsible for issuing passes. It is not for any specific high security zone although the entire academy was a secure site. I have seen many similar propuski/passes, but never one for the General Staff Academy - very nice!! Shawn

09-27-2002, 04:11 PM	#8
*Nota Bene* Super Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 6,945	Tal, I believe this is one of those unmarked passes to a special clinic. This would explain whay she also had one. Alexei

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