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01-12-2008, 12:27 AM
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Order of the Red Banner of Labor Type 6 variations discussion
Hi Marc.
Can you unindented for me this type. I have in my collection. The different is the hammer and sickle is made from silver instead gold or gold plated.
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01-12-2008, 04:08 AM
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Krzysztof,
Are you sure that the H&S is made in silver? From the look of it, the color seems to be different from that of silver parts of the order. As far as I know, H&S were made with some lower alloy gold, so it could be that it got patinated over time. Alexei, any opinion? Marc |
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01-12-2008, 02:09 PM
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Marc.
I'm sure the H/S is silver. The flesh of the camera make shadows but this order is unusual . The H/S is white color 100%. Did you see order like this before? Quote:
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01-12-2008, 02:25 PM
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Krzysztof,
No, I have never seen that before. Marc |
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01-12-2008, 02:49 PM
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Marc.
What type and version for this order can be??  Quote:
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01-12-2008, 03:05 PM
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Krzysztof,
According to Mondvor, it is Type 6, Variation 2, Subvariation 2, but that does not take into account your "silver" H&S. Marc |
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01-12-2008, 04:34 PM
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As far as I know, all the gold on any Red Banner of Labor is plating- no solid gold parts on this order (at least as far as I am aware). The only explanation I can come up with (and this is pure conjecture) is that the plating has been rubbed off intentionally (why, I have no idea, but I have seen instances of where an area of plating "comes-up" and people tend to "fiddle" with it until all the plating has been removed... nervous twitch, I suppose), the H&S missed the gold plating stage of production (either a Monday- hangover- made order or a Friday- I've got to get the hell outta here- made order) or that the H&S has been replaced at some point. As this is the area of the order that protrudes farthest, it would logically be the area that would take the most punishment- scratches, gouges, etc. Again, pure conjecture.
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Red Banner of Labor, T6, V2, Serial #05....
Greg.
I have little experience in this field, but I don't agree with you. I'm attaching two types of this order so you can compare . In my opinion it is a unique type or some one replaced H/S. You can see on the back the rivets are larger, on the front H/S is silver and is a little smaller compared to the other type.
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01-13-2008, 03:52 AM
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Krzysztof,
You need to compare orders in the same range. The ones you show are from different mints. Marc |
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01-13-2008, 04:07 AM
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Mark. I was hoping if some one from the Forum with more experience could help me to identify the type or subversion of this order.  QUOTE=Lapa;73767]Krzysztof, You need to compare orders in the same range. The ones you show are from different mints. Marc[/quote]
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