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Old 08-16-2008, 05:20 PM   #11
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Re: Doing Some Research on the "Spider"

This is great information guys..I made it a sticky post in the orders section. Keep up the excellent work
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Old 08-20-2008, 06:23 PM   #12
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Guys,

Would appreciate more info and scans.

If anybody has a "genuine" Spider 1st or 2nd class with full or partial mirror reverse I would love to see it.

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List updated with new serial numbers.

I will post some data about the award dates later.

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Old 08-30-2008, 07:50 PM   #14
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According to the SNDB, somebody owns a #17,098. I would appreciate some scans if possible.

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Updated and revised:

0043-0423 all flat backs (apparently);
0459 is the lowest mirror reverse I have seen so far;
0680 and 0870 - clear mirror reverse;
0871 and 0944 - flat back;
0982, 1113, 1134, 1152, 1155 - clear mirror reverse;
1159 - flatback;
1169, 1272, 1298, 1315, 1344, 1455, 1584, 1695 - mirror reverse;
1916 is flat back;
1983, 2037, 2379, 2412, 2487, 2517, 2565, 2566, 2576, 2618, 2733, 2735, 2804, 2913 - mirror reverse;
3287 - partial relief;
3312, 3322, 3341 - mirror reverse;
3372 - partial relief;
3532 - mirror reverse;
3624 - flat back;
3705, 3739 - mirror reverse;
3923, 4021, 4399 - partial relief;
4417, 4480, 4748, - mirror reverse;
4953 - plain;
4994 - mirror reverse;
5024, 5090, 5157, 5328 - weak partial relief;
5388 - mirror reverse;
5480, 5706 - plain reverse;
5748 - mirror reverse;
5846 - partial (I think);
6463, 6475, 8222, 8881, 8988 - plain;
10187, 10416, 10621, 10941, 11200, 11683, 13530, 13571, 14016, 14136, 14222(?), 14441, 14786, 15504(?), 16341, 16467 - partial relief;
16685 - plain;
16855, 17126 - partial relief;
17491, 18000, 18136 - plain;
18343, 18735, 18861, 19117, 19137 - partial relief.

Partial relief pieces are also observed, apparently randomly, in the 20XXX-30XXX range.

One mirror reverse piece was observed in the 54XXX range.

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Alexei,
Here's my "Spider" s/n 70572

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Here's my "Spider" s/n 70572

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Where does mine fit in?

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Where does mine fit in?

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Yours is a nice genuine piece, late variation with "tear drop" shaped ends of the star points. Thanks for posting it.

In this research I am trying to find anomalies, like mirror reverse, partial mirror reverse, etc.

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Serial numbers and Ukaz dates:

11 - April 30, 1975
14 - April 30, 1975
16 - April 30, 1975
17 - April 30, 1975
18 - April 30, 1975
19 - April 30, 1975
21 - April 30, 1975
23 - April 30, 1975
24 - April 30, 1975
25 - April 30, 1975
30 - April 30, 1975
32 - April 30, 1975
55 - February 17, 1975 (57 awards in this Ukaz)
193 - February 17, 1975 (to Gen. Achalov)
383 - April 30, 1975
1455 - March 4, 1975
1616 - April 30, 1975
2347 - April 30, 1975
2618 - April 30, 1975
2735 - April 30, 1975
2804 - April 30, 1975
3160 - April 30, 1975
3670 - April 30, 1975
4246 - April 30, 1975
4994 - April 30, 1975
6463 - September 6, 1976
7424 - April 30, 1975
8090 - April 30, 1975
8222 - April 30, 1975
8302 - April 30, 1975
10621 - April 30, 1975
14136 - April 30, 1975
14603 - April 30, 1975
15602 - April 30, 1975
16341 - April 30, 1975
16786 - April 30, 1975
17592 - March 3, 1975
17715 - April 30, 1975
18861 - February 22, 1977
19968 - April 30, 1975
20991 - February 17, 1976
21100 - April 30, 1975
21807 - February 17, 1976
21811 - February 17, 1976
22105 - May 25, 1976
23565 - August 12, 1976
26601 - February 22, 1977 (Adm. Khvatov)
26724 - February 21, 1978
26978 - February 21, 1978
27132 - February 21, 1978
28511 - February 22, 1977 (Gen. Indenko)
29437 - February 21, 1978
32250 - February 16, 1982
35705 - January 3, 1980
35739 - February 18, 1971
35830 - February 21, 1985
36320 - February 8, 1980
38000 - February 21, 1978
39142 - February 17, 1984
41498 - January 23, 1984
41771 - August 17, 1981
43832 - February 21, 1985
45754 - February 18, 1981
47491 - September 22, 1982
48304 - February 16, 1982
52631 - December 27, 1982
54261 - December 27, 1982
57853 - December 27, 1982
58013 - February 17, 1984
58709 - December 27, 1982
61031 - July 18, 1984
63475 - May 24, 1989 (awarded May 22, 2002) - needs further confirmation
60599 - February 17, 1984
64422 - February 21, 1985
69896 - April 5, 1985
74520 - September 9, 1986
77853 - March 3, 1987
78302 - March 3, 1987
86497 - February 22, 1989
95038 - August 1, 1988
98012 - August 1, 1988
106081 - February 22, 1989
107157 - February 20, 1991
107895 - February 20, 1991
107949 - February 22, 1989
114364 - February 20, 1991
121551 - February 20, 1991
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