Appropriate Medals for Display

[EricFG]

There's some discussion about photography techniques here: Red Banner ORB T2V2

here:Fake Defense of Campaign Medals starting about post #690

and here:Went to the Antiques and Collectible Show Yesterday I at about post #18

[willie777]

I'd like to bring some life back into this thread by adding a twist. I have some medals which I have and I would like to know what uniform to put it on (I kind of got rid of almost all of my Soviet uniforms, but kept my medals) Well anyway, I won't list what medals they are, I'll just show a ribbon bar graphic I made. I'm gonna let the experts tell me how they interpret the bar (branch, rank, time entered service, time completed, time in service) to see if the hypothetical officer which I based this bar on would have been possible. I won't tell what I think to be sure not to sway anybody...

[Tretov]

Well, I would interpret the bar to be a WW2 veteran with service on both the eastern and western front, who was in duty until late 1960s, got the Order of Lenin and/or October Revolution order for his good service and/or the Veteran of Labor upon retirement.

This "fellow" was around long enough to enjoy the rising of the Umalatov party and got three awards. Although not impossible of course, I would however not find it likely to put the sloppy Umalatov Order of Stalin among the high ranking Soviet era awards, but rather after all the other awards - unless he was a real hardcore communist who do not recognize the dissolving of the USSR and consider Umalatova to be the only true leader of Soviet Russia.

[Lapa]

I find that the order part is a bit "top heavy" in the sense that he got one of everything, especially when taking into consideration a BM and a MM, yet no defense of or campaign medals.

Marc

[willie777]

Originally Posted by Lapa

I find that the order part is a bit "top heavy" in the sense that he got one of everything, especially when taking into consideration a BM and a MM, yet no defense of or campaign medals.

Marc

The medals here are everything I have multiples of, as I am trying to assemble a bar out of my duplicate medals. I'm sorry, but having a collection full of jubilee medals ain't fun. The orders are all reproductions of which I possess (Except GPW and RS, they are real)

Originally Posted by Tretov

Well, I would interpret the bar to be a WW2 veteran with service on both the eastern and western front, who was in duty until late 1960s, got the Order of Lenin and/or October Revolution order for his good service and/or the Veteran of Labor upon retirement.

This "fellow" was around long enough to enjoy the rising of the Umalatov party and got three awards. Although not impossible of course, I would however not find it likely to put the sloppy Umalatov Order of Stalin among the high ranking Soviet era awards, but rather after all the other awards - unless he was a real hardcore communist who do not recognize the dissolving of the USSR and consider Umalatova to be the only true leader of Soviet Russia.

According to a order of precedence chart on a certain polish site, this is the proper way to put umalatova medals.

Here's what I have:
Order of Lenin: 25 yrs of service
Red Banner: 30 years of service
20 yrs irreproachable service medal: self-explanatory
The irreproachable medals were instituted in 1958, so to get only the 20 yr medal, you must have had started serving around between 1939 and 1942. Any earlier, no 20 yrs medal, and you get a nice RB instead, but any later you get the 15 yrs medal too.
The hypothetical officer wearing this bar would have had 25 years of service between 1964 and 1967, give or take a year, so no Armed Forces veteran medal on this bar.
The RS is for 15 yrs service
The MM is for 10 yrs service
The BM is for, well Bravery.
The GPW would be a 1985 one
The October Revolution... Well, IDK why its even there. I just have a repro, and maybe thought it was a good idea to put it in....Or not...You decide.
Kind of obvious what the rest of the medals are for...

What campaign/defense medals should I add?

[Lapa]

Willie,

After the introduction of the long-service medals, further awards of orders was discontinued, even for 25 or 30 years of service; so your Lenin and Red Banner simply don't add up here. As to the October Revolution, you answered your own question.

Marc

[Tretov]

I know the polish site but I have not seen any written regulations to where the Umalatov awards, assumingly considered as unofficial as many other nicknacks produced and issued by different organistations, should be placed.

[willie777]

Originally Posted by Lapa

Willie,

After the introduction of the long-service medals, further awards of orders was discontinued, even for 25 or 30 years of service; so your Lenin and Red Banner simply don't add up here. As to the October Revolution, you answered your own question.

Marc

Ahh, see no one told me that. I thought only the medals previously used for 10 to 20 years of service were discontinued for said purpose. I will modify accordingly:

[Lapa]

Originally Posted by willie777

Ahh, see no one told me that. I thought only the medals previously used for 10 to 20 years of service were discontinued for said purpose. I will modify accordingly:

That is what I originally meant by "top heavy"

Marc

[Esteban_cool]

Originally Posted by willie777

Ahh, see no one told me that. I thought only the medals previously used for 10 to 20 years of service were discontinued for said purpose. I will modify accordingly:

Hi Willie

Taking as reference some ribbon bars that I have, your would look more accurate if you add the AF 80 anniversary ribbon next to the irreproachable service one. So, the fifth row would have three medals and the last one two.
http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/a...2&d=1209143529
http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/a...2&d=1204657103