Nakhimov medal Transitional style.Help

sovvisor · 08-15-2002, 02:16 AM

Hi to all of you collectors.
I need help to determine if a Nakhimov medal transitional style is genuine. All advice on how to do it, pictures and closeups on details would be very welcome. Price is 170 dollars. Don´t know if this is ok. No document is present.
Best wishes

Ed Maier · 08-15-2002, 10:07 AM

Can you post a scanof the medal?

Ed

sovvisor · 08-15-2002, 11:33 AM

Thanks ed. I have a picture but accidently erased it so I´ll have to get another scan.

sovvisor · 08-16-2002, 03:31 AM

pics...

sovvisor · 08-16-2002, 03:35 AM

pic2..

Ed Maier · 08-16-2002, 09:32 AM

Sovvisor,

Its hard to tell from the scans but this does look like the other transitional Nakhimov medals that I have seen. It is shinner then a wartime issue, has thecorrect loop. I do not know if they were serial numbered or not as I have seen them with and without serial numbers.

I wish I could tell you more.

Ed

sovvisor · 08-16-2002, 11:02 AM

Thanks.
Soo you think it looks ok? I think so to. The details are sharp and the loop and ring seems ok. Very difficult with a medal you never have held in your hand.

More replies wanted.

***Nota Bene*** · 08-16-2002, 07:39 PM

Sovvisor,

Why is this variation called transitional? It existed since the 1980s, and was given as late awards and replacements.

Alexei

sovvisor · 08-17-2002, 02:51 AM

The Nakhimov medal was given til 1991 in the old UssR style. The biggerst diffrence between the old soviet medal and the transitional style medal is the ring. On the old ones the ring is like a top of an anchor but on the medal from 1992-94 the ring is casted togather with the rest of the medal. It was one of the sovietmedal that bare no distingtive symbols of Ussr and could be adopted as an new russian style medal. After 1994 the entire medal range was changed and there were no medal that was very similar to the old soviet ones.

***Nota Bene*** · 08-17-2002, 06:36 PM

Sovvisor,

My point exactly, there is nothing transitional about it, since the medal was discontinued after 1991. It is just a variation 2.

There is a transitional variation of the State Border Medal, that is identical to the old Soviet one, but has no "CCCP" on the back. It was used till they switched to a new design in 1992.

After 1992 they kept Bravery and Ushakov medals with minor modifications.

Alexei

08-15-2002, 02:16 AM	#1
sovvisor Bearer of the Red Star Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Uppsala Swden Age: 33 Posts: 474	Nakhimov medal Transitional style.Help Hi to all of you collectors. I need help to determine if a Nakhimov medal transitional style is genuine. All advice on how to do it, pictures and closeups on details would be very welcome. Price is 170 dollars. Don´t know if this is ok. No document is present. Best wishes __________________ sovvisor

08-15-2002, 11:33 AM	#3
sovvisor Bearer of the Red Star Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Uppsala Swden Age: 33 Posts: 474	shortly Thanks ed. I have a picture but accidently erased it so I´ll have to get another scan. __________________ sovvisor

08-16-2002, 11:02 AM	#7
sovvisor Bearer of the Red Star Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Uppsala Swden Age: 33 Posts: 474	thanks ED Thanks. Soo you think it looks ok? I think so to. The details are sharp and the loop and ring seems ok. Very difficult with a medal you never have held in your hand. More replies wanted. __________________ sovvisor

08-17-2002, 02:51 AM	#9
sovvisor Bearer of the Red Star Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Uppsala Swden Age: 33 Posts: 474	Hi The Nakhimov medal was given til 1991 in the old UssR style. The biggerst diffrence between the old soviet medal and the transitional style medal is the ring. On the old ones the ring is like a top of an anchor but on the medal from 1992-94 the ring is casted togather with the rest of the medal. It was one of the sovietmedal that bare no distingtive symbols of Ussr and could be adopted as an new russian style medal. After 1994 the entire medal range was changed and there were no medal that was very similar to the old soviet ones. __________________ sovvisor

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08-15-2002, 10:07 AM	#2
Ed Maier Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 40 Posts: 441	Can you post a scanof the medal? Ed

08-16-2002, 09:32 AM	#6
Ed Maier Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 40 Posts: 441	Sovvisor, Its hard to tell from the scans but this does look like the other transitional Nakhimov medals that I have seen. It is shinner then a wartime issue, has thecorrect loop. I do not know if they were serial numbered or not as I have seen them with and without serial numbers. I wish I could tell you more. Ed

08-16-2002, 07:39 PM	#8
*Nota Bene* Super Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 7,174	Sovvisor, Why is this variation called transitional? It existed since the 1980s, and was given as late awards and replacements. Alexei

08-17-2002, 06:36 PM	#10
*Nota Bene* Super Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 7,174	Sovvisor, My point exactly, there is nothing transitional about it, since the medal was discontinued after 1991. It is just a variation 2. There is a transitional variation of the State Border Medal, that is identical to the old Soviet one, but has no "CCCP" on the back. It was used till they switched to a new design in 1992. After 1992 they kept Bravery and Ushakov medals with minor modifications. Alexei

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