Nakhimov medal Transitional style.Help

[Ed Maier]

Alexei and Sovvisor,

There is a transitional Nakhimov Medal that was issued during the 1991-1994 period. It was created by Ukase of the President of the Russian Federation No. 960 on 25 March 1993. I believe that 69 were awarded with the first going to Valentin Alekseevich Beichkov.

I hope this helps,
Ed

[sovvisor]

Originally posted by Nota Bene
Sovvisor,

My point exactly, there is nothing transitional about it, since the medal was discontinued after 1991. It is just a variation 2.

There is a transitional variation of the State Border Medal, that is identical to the old Soviet one, but has no "CCCP" on the back. It was used till they switched to a new design in 1992.

After 1992 they kept Bravery and Ushakov medals with minor modifications.

Alexei

I see your point nota bene. I think it´s called transitional and not variation 2 because it´s awarded after the ussr was gone. After 1994 the new russian federation was formed and adapted there own medals. Nakhimow medal 1992-94 is not an soviet medal and tot an russian thereby an transitional medal.
Best wishes

[Tal Inbar]

Hi all

Please look at

http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Russia...v/Nakhimov.htm

to clarify the issue.

Tal

[Nota Bene]

Gentlemen,

The medal that Ed is talking about (Ed, please, correct me if I am wrong) is identical to the one we are discussing here. My guess is that they were simply using the Soviet leftovers, and this exact variation was also awarded during the Soviet times, at least since the 1980s.

Alexei

[Ed Maier]

Alexei,

The medal I am speaking fo the like the one in the scan and in Tal's link. They are not Soviet leftovers as they are different in quality and construction. Its hard to explain, but if you hold the Soviet and Transistional piece side by side, you will see the difference right away. The transisition medal seems lighter in weight, has a one piece loop that is made as part of the medal, is usually a bright "gold" color. I also have not seen a serial numbered transitional piece and I am not sure if they ever were numbered.

I wish I could explain it better,
Ed

[Nota Bene]

Ed,

Ok, now I am confused . I thought the one on Sovvisor's scan is a Soviet issue. If you look at it at a small angle, the medallion looks/is slightly concave. I have seen one of those with a duplicate document, it was numbered and was also a duplicate. The research confirmed that a duplicate was indeed given to the person. It was awarded if I remember corrctly in the 1980s. I have also seen exact same medals without the serial number. So the one I am talking about would be variation 3, right?

Alexei

[Ed Maier]

Alexei,

I do not mean to be confusings. I do not know the authenticity of the scaned medal, just that it looks similar to the transitional Nakhimov medals. The transitional was not authorized until 1993 and you can tell the difference between a Soviet era medal and a transition piece by the quality. Thats all I know about the piece.

Sorry to be confusing,
Ed

[Nota Bene]

Ed,

Would you by any chance have a scan of the transitional medal?

Alexei

[Ed_Haynes]

Although the forum seems to have a (rather strange) aversion to posting links, isn't what we are speaking of the difference between:

http://www.mondvor.iptelecom.net.ua/MNahim.html

and

http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Russia...v/Nakhimov.htm

?

Ed Haynes

[sovvisor]

Originally posted by Nota Bene
Ed,

Would you by any chance have a scan of the transitional medal?

Alexei

HI If everything is like I wish it would be you could go back to the begining of this discussion and look at my scans.
Best wishes