The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum  
  • Serial Numbers Database 2.0
Enter Here

vBClassified Featured Listings
Red Banner of Labor
Bravery Medals Group with Documents
Genuine Leather Map Case
Orders of the USSR by Kutsenko
Order of the Badge of Honor

Go Back   The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum > Soviet Military Awards > Medals

Medals Physical Characteristics, History, Types and Variations, Identification, Collecting Stories..anything relevant to the collecting of medals is here. NO AUTHENTICATION QUESTIONS HERE. USE "FAKE ALERT" FORUM FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING AUTHENTICITY.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-11-2008, 11:23 PM   #21
Senior Member
 
Kirchgoens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Wash, DC & Central Asia
Age: 42
Posts: 530
54 more data points with three U's and 51 non-U's...

As promised, here's another 54 points of data at 2.8mil or higher containg 51 non-U's and 3 U's (not be confused with female sheep):

2,801,954 - separate soldered ring
2,803,256 - separate soldered ring
2,803,327 - separate soldered ring
2,839,579 - separate soldered ring
2,840,765 - separate soldered ring
2,860,053 - separate soldered ring
2,865,101 - separate soldered ring
2,934,953 - separate soldered ring
2,935,668 - separate soldered ring
2,935,803 - separate soldered ring
2,949,133 - separate soldered ring
2,971,940 - separate soldered ring
2,973,393 - separate soldered ring
2,973,543 - separate soldered ring
3,019,399 - separate soldered ring
3,048,438 - separate soldered ring
3,092,985 - U shaped ring
3,133,237 - separate soldered ring
3,146,588 - separate soldered ring
3,148,539 - separate soldered ring
3,153,510 - separate soldered ring
3,155,786 - separate soldered ring
3,212,469 - separate soldered ring
3,220,236 - separate soldered ring
3,225,796 - separate soldered ring
3,251,082 - separate soldered ring
3,260,961 - separate soldered ring
3,270,689 - separate soldered ring
3,315,568 - separate soldered ring
3,333,641 - separate soldered ring
3,375,335 - U shaped ring
3.389.556 - separate soldered ring
3.389.803 - U-shaped ring
3,397,842 - separate soldered ring
3,428,312 - separate soldered ring
3,429,622 - separate soldered ring
3,452,253 - U shaped ring
3,508,562 - separate soldered ring
3,511,399 - separate soldered ring
3,535,046 - separate soldered ring
3,554,646 - separate soldered ring
3,578,151 - separate soldered ring
3,605,916 - separate soldered ring
3,605,946 - separate soldered ring
3,605,961 - separate soldered ring
3,605,973 - separate soldered ring
3,606,481 - separate soldered ring
3,606,486 - separate soldered ring
3,606,558 - separate soldered ring
3,606,571 - separate soldered ring
3,606,763 - separate soldered ring
3,606,765 - separate soldered ring
3,606,820 - separate soldered ring
3,607,089 - separate soldered ring
3,607,389 - separate soldered ring
3,655,238 - separate soldered ring

Andreas - I've tried to format them so you can just past them in. I apologize for the increased work load.

Also, in an earlier post I had said I listed all my u-shaped rings. I went back and found three more tongues to wag, all three of which are present and accounted for in the data just above.

Last edited by desantnik; 10-19-2008 at 05:14 AM.
Kirchgoens is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 10-12-2008, 03:53 AM   #22
Senior Member
 
Alfred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Germany, Cologne
Posts: 827
Re: Research U shaped Bravery Medal

Many thanks Kirchgoens and many thanks to Excel !

Now we have 131 pieces, 105 with separate soldered ring and 26 with U-shaped ring.

That makes a ratio 1 : 4,038
lowest s/n U-shaped ring: 2.864.684
highest s/n U-shaped ring: 3.657.124
difference: 792.440

forecast:
157.292 U-shaped ring
635.147 separate ring

And it looks there are no serial number blocks of u-shaped medals.

Last edited by Alfred; 10-26-2008 at 04:44 PM.
Alfred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2008, 07:31 PM   #23
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: New York USA
Posts: 7,174
Re: Research U shaped Bravery Medal

Andreas,

Most likely, they were numbered randomly, as your research seems to confirm.

Alexei
__________________
"WARNING: Collecting can be addictive!!" - Nota Bene
Nota Bene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2008, 05:14 AM   #24
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Europe
Posts: 2,123
Re: Research U shaped Bravery Medal

I just added two - 3.389.556 and 3.389.803 that are about 250 away from each other and they are of different types.
desantnik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2008, 07:48 AM   #25
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Europe
Posts: 2,123
Re: Research U shaped Bravery Medal

I've just examined the two BMs I posted above and the plot is getting thicker. Although they are so closely numbered, the usual soldered-ring 3.389.556 BM has a rounded "3", while on the "tongue" 3.389.803, the 3's are more angled, that is they have a flat, top-bar to the "3" and a downward slant at the free end of the top-bar.

Could it be that all "tongue" BMs have this type of numbering too?
desantnik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2008, 07:53 AM   #26
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Europe
Posts: 2,123
Re: Research U shaped Bravery Medal

Quote:
Originally Posted by desantnik View Post
Could it be that all "tongue" BMs have this type of numbering too?
I guess I answered my own question. The very first posting to this thread has the same type of numbering on both BMs. I'll have to post the picture of my two different ones to illustrate the difference.
desantnik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2008, 08:43 AM   #27
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Europe
Posts: 2,123
Re: Research U shaped Bravery Medal

Note the close serial numbers and different style of "3"'s.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSC_0361.JPG (111.3 KB, 16 views)
desantnik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2008, 10:59 AM   #28
Senior Member
 
Kirchgoens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Wash, DC & Central Asia
Age: 42
Posts: 530
Re: Research U shaped Bravery Medal

With numbers that close, I'd think they were done in the same place. It might be as simple as the dude who did one of them had a different set of dies/stamps than the dude next to him doing the other one. The stamps are simply tools, and might be of mixed sets in a noisy and busy shop cranking stuff out during war. These are the little questions we'll never know the answer to unless some veteran of labor who worked in one of these shops does a memoir of his medal-making service. Somehow I don't think that book will ever be written.
Kirchgoens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2008, 02:12 PM   #29
Senior Member
 
Kirchgoens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Wash, DC & Central Asia
Age: 42
Posts: 530
Three more "soldered" BM's...

Here are three more for the accounting:

3,165,440 - separate soldered ring
3,554,893 - separate soldered ring
3,642,318 - separate soldered ring
Kirchgoens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2008, 03:09 PM   #30
Senior Member
 
Alfred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Germany, Cologne
Posts: 827
Re: Research U shaped Bravery Medal

thanks Kirchgoens, I also added 3 medals. So we have:

137 pieces, 111 with separate soldered ring and 26 with U-shaped ring.

That makes a ratio 1 : 4,269
lowest s/n U-shaped ring: 2.864.684
highest s/n U-shaped ring: 3.657.124
difference: 792.440

forecast:
150.369 ↓ U-shaped ring
642.034 ↑ separate ring

And there are no serial number blocks of u-shaped medals. See post 1
Alfred is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
research, u-shaped


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bravery, Vic Over Germany and Caucaus Medal - Research included ANZAC Soviet Awards For Sale Archive 1 11-17-2007 05:33 PM
A Bravery Medal riley1965 Medals 7 08-25-2007 05:59 AM
Got a new Bravery medal Yeti Medals 13 06-13-2007 04:41 PM
Bravery medal T.1 V.3 + research Laurent Soviet Awards For Sale Archive 5 09-04-2006 03:09 PM
Medal for Bravery w/Doc Nota Bene Soviet Awards For Sale Archive 1 03-23-2006 11:40 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright ©2008 Arthur G. Bates III