Fake Orders of the Red Star - Page 28

EricFG · 02-07-2010, 06:33 AM

Wow, GREAT images! And a nice screw post base RS as well, that's something I always wanted and never found. The enamel repair would make no difference to me whatsoever.

rocketscientist · 02-07-2010, 12:54 PM

Thank you for the appreciation. In the meantime I was browsing the net looking for more ORS

... It is like hunting butterflies, you can still discover unknown species. Look at this "double rivet" OSR: never seen before, on sale today for 12-hundred bucks by a seller of good-reputation.
It is a very rare variation, as the seller states... or more likely we should say "mutation"?

cheers

Kirchgoens · 02-07-2010, 02:08 PM

That is just plain weird. Can't be real. Never heard of such a thing.

Strange, but the actual engraved number looks about like it should for 2.5mil minus the mighty funky fake rivets.

deValcourt · 02-07-2010, 03:02 PM

I try not to say impossible, but it does seem "highly improbable" that this is authentic. It looks like the reverse is almost flat.

Phillip

Kirchgoens · 02-07-2010, 04:32 PM

I have 2,568,701 and 2,576,696, and they are quite normal. This double-rivet dealy has got to be from phunky phreakdom. I phigure porcine objects will fly from my reverse when this comes to pass.

***Nota Bene*** · 02-08-2010, 07:50 PM

Pieces with two rivets, holding the center medallion have been observed, and there are several theories as to the reason for their existence. In my opinion the most plausible one is that it is a post production repair.

Alexei

deValcourt · 02-08-2010, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nota Bene

Pieces with two rivets, holding the center medallion have been observed, and there are several theories as to the reason for their existence. In my opinion the most plausible one is that it is a post production repair.

Alexei

I think the repair scenario is the most likely and that possibility did cross my mind - it is a very clean job - but I wouldn't expect it to be "mint" work and certainly not justifying a $1200 price tag.

Otherwise, by the same logic, pieces with high-quality enamel repair would be worth more than all-original or even damaged ones.

Someone is playing the fool and unfortunately, someone else will be the fool.

(I still think the back looks too flat for my liking.

)

Phillip

Lapa · 02-09-2010, 06:41 AM

Phillip,

I've got to disagree with you on this one

This could very well be a Mint repair job; this star looks like others that have been observed. As to price, you know that saying about the eye of the beholder, don't you

Marc

milanche · 02-09-2010, 11:01 AM

Hi,

I have another question about authenticity.
This is a Soviet Order of the Red Star, SN 2,659,870, the Mint Mark measures 9mm (quote of the seller).
What do you think, is this an original piece?
Note: I am a new member and still can't post high res pics.

Thank You very much
Milan

Kirchgoens · 02-09-2010, 11:55 AM

It's good.

02-07-2010, 06:33 AM	#271
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 45 Posts: 2,212	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star Wow, GREAT images! And a nice screw post base RS as well, that's something I always wanted and never found. The enamel repair would make no difference to me whatsoever. __________________ Спасибо, Eric Gaumann

02-07-2010, 02:08 PM	#273
Kirchgoens Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Mid Atlantic Age: 43 Posts: 904	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star That is just plain weird. Can't be real. Never heard of such a thing. Strange, but the actual engraved number looks about like it should for 2.5mil minus the mighty funky fake rivets.

02-07-2010, 03:02 PM	#274
deValcourt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana USA Posts: 1,233	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star I try not to say impossible, but it does seem "highly improbable" that this is authentic. It looks like the reverse is almost flat. Phillip __________________ P.

02-07-2010, 04:32 PM	#275
Kirchgoens Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Mid Atlantic Age: 43 Posts: 904	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star I have 2,568,701 and 2,576,696, and they are quite normal. This double-rivet dealy has got to be from phunky phreakdom. I phigure porcine objects will fly from my reverse when this comes to pass.

02-08-2010, 07:50 PM	#276
*Nota Bene* Super Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 8,096	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star Pieces with two rivets, holding the center medallion have been observed, and there are several theories as to the reason for their existence. In my opinion the most plausible one is that it is a post production repair. Alexei __________________ "WARNING: Collecting can be addictive!!" - Nota Bene

02-09-2010, 06:41 AM	#278
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 48 Posts: 4,347	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star Phillip, I've got to disagree with you on this one This could very well be a Mint repair job; this star looks like others that have been observed. As to price, you know that saying about the eye of the beholder, don't you Marc Last edited by Lapa; 02-09-2010 at 06:45 AM.

02-09-2010, 11:55 AM	#280
Kirchgoens Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Mid Atlantic Age: 43 Posts: 904	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star It's good.

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