Fake "Capture of" Campaign Medals

***Nota Bene*** · 06-11-2006, 12:36 PM

Erik,

I can't guarantee that it is indeed genuine. Authenticating from scans in not an exact science.

I have seen original campaign medals with this unusual pebbling.

Alexei

Yeti · 06-11-2006, 05:01 PM

Thank You for the help. I'm glad that it could be original ( if it is a fake then it is really good). I will put it back in my campaign medal collection.

/Erik

***Nota Bene*** · 06-11-2006, 09:14 PM

Erik,

Here's an idea - if you have access to a digital scan and caliper, could you weight (in grams, without the suspension and the link) and measure it (diameter and thickness in mm).

Alexei

Yeti · 06-12-2006, 10:21 AM

The scale I have can't read tenths of grams but is quite exact.
The medal is about 32.3mm in diameter, 3mm thick. Ring is 5.8mm and 1.5mm in diameter.
It weighs about 19g.

I will link to some better pictures of the medal, since most of them are too big to attach.

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/Erik

***Nota Bene*** · 06-12-2006, 08:04 PM

Erik,

Thanks for the measurements and the scans. It is indeed very heavily pebbled and it is also too heavy. I am

, but I still can't call it an fake without reservations.

Alexei

Yeti · 06-13-2006, 05:37 AM

Thank You for the help. Hopefully some day in the future we will know for sure.

By the way. I got this medal from E in Dec 2002.

Thank You
Erik

Sergei · 02-20-2007, 08:20 AM

The medal on the left (never mind the strange grease that refuses to come off) is thinner and lighter and, as shown in the third scan, has a surface defect (a sign of casting?). The one on the right looks better to me apart from the ring and I am not sure if it is crisp enough for it's age. Measurements:
Left: weight (without link) 15.6g, diam. 32.44mm, thickness 2.14-2.2mm
Right: weight (without link) 17.01g, diam. 32.16mm, thickness 2.76mm.
Thanks in advance,
Sergei

Laurent · 02-20-2007, 08:58 AM

Sergei,

I don't like the medal on the left. The one on the right is good I think.

Lapa · 02-20-2007, 10:39 AM

Sergei,

I believe that the medal on the left is a cast fake with one of the worst rings I have ever seen.
Now, about the one on the right, it doesn't seem to be very crisp at all, which, to me, is a worry. Can you please post better scans of the medal on the right.

Marc

Sergei · 02-20-2007, 02:15 PM

Thanks. If not better then at least bigger scans of the medal on the right in the previous post.
Sergei

06-11-2006, 12:36 PM	#1
*Nota Bene* Super Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 7,184	Fake "Capture of" Campaign Medals Erik, I can't guarantee that it is indeed genuine. Authenticating from scans in not an exact science. I have seen original campaign medals with this unusual pebbling. Alexei __________________ "WARNING: Collecting can be addictive!!" - Nota Bene

06-11-2006, 09:14 PM	#3
*Nota Bene* Super Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 7,184	Erik, Here's an idea - if you have access to a digital scan and caliper, could you weight (in grams, without the suspension and the link) and measure it (diameter and thickness in mm). Alexei __________________ "WARNING: Collecting can be addictive!!" - Nota Bene

06-12-2006, 08:04 PM	#5
*Nota Bene* Super Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 7,184	Erik, Thanks for the measurements and the scans. It is indeed very heavily pebbled and it is also too heavy. I am , but I still can't call it an fake without reservations. Alexei __________________ "WARNING: Collecting can be addictive!!" - Nota Bene

02-20-2007, 08:58 AM	#8
Laurent Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 1,060	Sergei, I don't like the medal on the left. The one on the right is good I think. __________________ "The man who has no sense of History, is like a man who has no ears and no eyes..."

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06-11-2006, 05:01 PM	#2
Yeti Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 86	Thank You for the help. I'm glad that it could be original ( if it is a fake then it is really good). I will put it back in my campaign medal collection. /Erik

06-13-2006, 05:37 AM	#6
Yeti Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 86	Thank You for the help. Hopefully some day in the future we will know for sure. By the way. I got this medal from E in Dec 2002. Thank You Erik

02-20-2007, 10:39 AM	#9
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 47 Posts: 3,482	Sergei, I believe that the medal on the left is a cast fake with one of the worst rings I have ever seen. Now, about the one on the right, it doesn't seem to be very crisp at all, which, to me, is a worry. Can you please post better scans of the medal on the right. Marc

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