Order of the Red Banner of Labor

***Tal Inbar*** · 04-27-2002, 02:46 PM

Another ebay special:

***Tal Inbar*** · 04-27-2002, 02:48 PM

And:

***Tal Inbar*** · 04-27-2002, 02:49 PM

and the reverse:

CZ · 04-27-2002, 04:52 PM

Bad - specially this order has very sharp details. I also miss the MONDVOR-sign and the serial number at the reverse.

8 years ago, I had such an order in my hands, but the dealer wanted USD 1.500,- for it. I got my "Glory-Trio" cheaper and so I didn't buy - big mistake : (((

I estimate today the market value has to be around USD 3.000,- or more?

Regards from Vienna

***Art*** · 04-27-2002, 08:44 PM

Horrible..what happened to the good quality fakes? they don't even seem to be trying here.

Look at the "rivets" on the reverse, they don't even look like real rivets, but rather as part of the casting.

***Nota Bene*** · 05-02-2002, 06:53 PM

Gentleman,

I believe these copies appeared about 5-6 years ago, and they were never designed to be fakes, just as inexpensive "space fillers" for collectors. They used to sell for $30-40 in Moscow.

Art, good quality fakes are still around

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***Art*** · 05-02-2002, 07:08 PM

Tal,

How was this advertised? Was it being offered as an authentic Type 1, 1928 version of the Order of the Red Banner?

***Tal Inbar*** · 05-02-2002, 07:14 PM

Here is the exact qoute (it's on sale now):

"Russian Original
High Quality Copy
of
THE ORDER OF THE
RED BANNER OF LABOR
Type 1

SCREW BACK

Was established on September 7, 1928
The order was awarded for significant labor contributions.
Was awarded from Sept. 7, 1928 until June 11, 1936

Made of Silver 983' , Gold plating & Red enamel
Weight: 18.4 Gr"

***Nota Bene*** · 05-02-2002, 07:24 PM

Tal,

All I was saying was that they are cheap copies, and were made as such. If I remember correctly they are made of 50% silver. They will certainly not fool any serious collector.

The fact that somebody is selling it as a genuine piece is outrageous, but I doubt he will find any buyers.

***Tal Inbar*** · 05-02-2002, 07:28 PM

And to ask for it $220.00!!!

04-27-2002, 08:44 PM	#5
*Art* Generalissimus Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 3,076	Horrible..what happened to the good quality fakes? they don't even seem to be trying here. Look at the "rivets" on the reverse, they don't even look like real rivets, but rather as part of the casting. __________________ Visit the main site to the forum: The Soviet Military Awards Page Want to sell awards on the forum? Please read the FAQ Important Links: Forum announcements and rules \| Image posting FAQ

05-02-2002, 07:08 PM	#7
*Art* Generalissimus Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 3,076	Tal, How was this advertised? Was it being offered as an authentic Type 1, 1928 version of the Order of the Red Banner? __________________ Visit the main site to the forum: The Soviet Military Awards Page Want to sell awards on the forum? Please read the FAQ Important Links: Forum announcements and rules \| Image posting FAQ

05-02-2002, 07:14 PM	#8
*Tal Inbar* Marshal CCCP Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 39 Posts: 5,058	Here is the exact qoute (it's on sale now): "Russian Original High Quality Copy of THE ORDER OF THE RED BANNER OF LABOR Type 1 SCREW BACK Was established on September 7, 1928 The order was awarded for significant labor contributions. Was awarded from Sept. 7, 1928 until June 11, 1936 Made of Silver 983' , Gold plating & Red enamel Weight: 18.4 Gr" Last edited by Tal Inbar; 01-04-2003 at 06:16 PM.

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04-27-2002, 04:52 PM	#4
CZ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 252	Bad - specially this order has very sharp details. I also miss the MONDVOR-sign and the serial number at the reverse. 8 years ago, I had such an order in my hands, but the dealer wanted USD 1.500,- for it. I got my "Glory-Trio" cheaper and so I didn't buy - big mistake : ((( I estimate today the market value has to be around USD 3.000,- or more? Regards from Vienna

05-02-2002, 06:53 PM	#6
*Nota Bene* Super Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 7,184	Gentleman, I believe these copies appeared about 5-6 years ago, and they were never designed to be fakes, just as inexpensive "space fillers" for collectors. They used to sell for $30-40 in Moscow. Art, good quality fakes are still around )

05-02-2002, 07:24 PM	#9
*Nota Bene* Super Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 7,184	Tal, All I was saying was that they are cheap copies, and were made as such. If I remember correctly they are made of 50% silver. They will certainly not fool any serious collector. The fact that somebody is selling it as a genuine piece is outrageous, but I doubt he will find any buyers.

05-02-2002, 07:28 PM	#10
*Tal Inbar* Marshal CCCP Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 39 Posts: 5,058	And to ask for it $220.00!!!

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