My Navy & Air Force Daggers

[matteti]

Wow, it seems there might be more than one ZIK! Not surprising from the country of "Ironiya sudby, ili S legkim parom!" (where every cities are the same, have the same street names, same architecture, ... and same factory names!)

[Lapa]

Guys,

I personally support Eric's version of Zlatoust rather than the Kalinin factory.

Marc

[matteti]

I must admit I didn't find any information about producing officer's daggers on the ZIK factory in Ekaterimburg, so Eric and Lapa have a very good point. But it seems other people on the net are also confused because I've seen references to ZIK marker's mark on daggers as being "Kalinin Works".

[Lapa]

Etienne,

Zlatoust is a very long-established manufacturer of various types of blades (daggers, swords, etc).

Marc

[Al-muell]

Guys, as far as I am concerned, the Kalinin Factory You are talking about NEVER actually produced daggers, kives sabres etc.

[Al-muell]

OK, it's the old Zlatoust.
take a look here:
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esp. at the history note at the bottom.


So it would be like:
Zlatoustowskiy Instrumentalnyi Zavod?

[Lapa]

Al-Muell,

Just change the last word to "Kombinat" and you should be close to reality

Marc

[Al-muell]

Originally Posted by Lapa

Al-Muell,

Just change the last word to "Kombinat" and you should be close to reality

Marc

Ooops!
Of course I meant Kombinat. It's because I still had Zavod imeni... on my mind.
Thanks for correction

[Nota Bene]

Constulted a collector friend from Moscow. According to him ZIK is Zavod Imeni Kalinina.

Zlatoust used Zlatoust, ZMZ, H&S, Bulat and other marks, but not ZIK.

Alexei

[vvadim]

Originally Posted by Nota Bene

Constulted a collector friend from Moscow. According to him ZIK is Zavod Imeni Kalinina.

Zlatoust used Zlatoust, ZMZ, H&S, Bulat and other marks, but not ZIK.

Alexei

Soviet Union had several plants named after M.I.Kalinin, but none of them never ever manufactured edged weapons. Most of soviet edged weapons (shashkas, sabers, daggers, cutlasses etc.) from 1922 going forward were manufactured in one location - city of Zlatoust. Only bayonets were manufactured in state arsenals together with rifles.

During WW2 short army knives model 1940 were manufactured not only in Zlatoust but in some other places. Also in the late 1941 – 1942 about 100,000 model 1927 shashkas (about 12,000 per month) were manufactured in city Ordzonikidze (Орджоникидзевский вагоноремонтный завод Наркомата путей сообщения) with manufacturer’s trade mark ORZ.

In 1931 Zlatoust arms factory (Златоустовская оружейная фабрика) was given new name Zlatoust state plant (Златоустовский государственный завод) and manufacturer’s trade mark became ZGZ. In 1935 name was changed to Zlatoust instrument plant (Златоустовский инструментальный завод) and manufacturer’s trade mark became ZIZ.