Edits to Mekhonoshin’s book or new badges

[Aharim]

On a previous post I had said there were no overt mistakes in the M. book on deputy badges which would be noticed without some research. In the last year we have all had the book and you may have noticed some things that were not right. In addition I know I have posted pictures to fill in some of his blanks. I am establishing this string so if you have the book you can find updates and edits easier.

To start off, regarding edits or new badges, I have attached two pictures (front and back) of CEK/TsIK badge for Ukraine in bronze, which should be 22.1.4. But if you look at the pattern shown here it does not match 22.1.4 it matches more closely either 22.1.2 or 3. I have multiple bronze badges like this. They all have the same gear shaped nut same pattern, same size.

22.1.2 and 22.1.3 are both supposed to be silver and differ based on location of tail of ‘Ts’ (either centered between legs of”K” or beneath the left leg.) IF you compare the book to this badge this looks more like 22.1.2 (which again is supposed to be silver). So either this is a new unlisted type or he has the pictures identified backwards?

I will put links here to some of the pictures we have shown show badges not in the book, some of which have blanks and some not.

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[Aharim]

Picture of 21.1.1 German ASSR early TsIK in Gothic German/Cyrillic Russian. There is a bronze badge that looks just like 21.1.3 (second picture). That could be 21.1.2 or 21.1.4.

[Aharim]

From a previous string - Gold Georgian - That string includes pictures of three different badges that are not in "M" The CEK (flag) badge shown in that string is marked 84 so probably predates his badge 27.1.1.

The two gold badges that are not flags predate the flag badges and would probably be for 1922 or 1924 (or both?).

GOLD - Georgian TsIK and Supreme Soviet

If you copy the pictures in this string shrink them to a proper size you can add to your copy of his book.

Still to come: Armenia CEK 1.2 Lithuania Supreme Soviet 2.1 et al.

[Aharim]

Badge for Armenia 38.1.2. This badge is un-numbered but came with document from 1929 (6th Convocation). Note rays under enamel. This badge is manufactured with waves in the profile (the dark like down the center is caused by cross lighting on the waves From above looking at the top of the badge it would look like ~

There is a 4th known CEK/TsIK badge which looks alot like 38.1.1 but with rays.

[Aharim]

Lithuania 33.2.1. or maybe 2.3 ??

While this did not come with document it did come from a reliable source. It is in bronze/gilt. The rays do no match the badge shown as 2.2. Check rays against "I" second line.

M says badge 2.3 is in silver with mint mark but badge is absent. IF that badge is really in silver then this would be 2.1. otherwise this might be 2.3.

It is noted that Latvia red badges were in bronze, Estonia red badges after 1st convocation were in bronze, so it would seem bronze would be expected in Lithuania. ? ? ?

[Aharim]

Next a correction - mint mark for 11th convocation USSR seems to be in error. I have several documented badges with "E" mark vice "Zh" mark. I'll post with pictures.

[Aharim]

M describes two mint mark variations in use in 1980 and 1985 identifed by him as "E" and "Zh" (in their Cyrillic equivalents) variations.

E = MMD as block letters with the "D" having square/flat top

Zh = Mark as a circular seal

For the USSR, badge 2.2.2 for the 11th Convocation is supposed to be with "Zh" variation (circular seal). However, I have only seen 11th convocation with E variation. Below are three badges from the 11th convocation with MMD.

These badges all were with document and 485 was cased. Formerly, I saw at least two more badges with document but cannot locate those pictures at the moment.

While this may seem an insignificant variation/edit, those missing badge pictues were of the deputy badges of Nikolai Ogarkov! It could affect the value/authenticity of those badges were they to be compared to a standard that was not correct.

[Aharim]

Armenia 1.0 or 1.4

The pictured badge looks a lot like 1.1 but with rays.

[Nota Bene]

Aharim,

Cool info!!

Alexei

[Aharim]

Abkhazi badge 2.2+

The first badge shown here is "like" Abkhazi 2.2 except that the hammer and sickle are not enamel covered. They penetrate completely though the enamel. Mint mark is MD variation "b" narrow top. Screw nut is small size of 1947, badge is with document(s) but group includes both 2nd and 3rd convocation. Georgia flag changed 26 April, 1951, so if there were a session before that date this could be 3rd convocation recalled and replaced. Except 3rd convocation is suposed to be mint variation "V"

For comparison, second badge is normal 2.2 which has enamel over the hammer and sickle.

Note also sickle shows signs of tarnish on handle which would mean that it was gilt and intended to show through. This is not a mistake badge, just one more badge between the cracks.