Edits to Mekhonoshin’s book or new badges

[Aharim]

More Documents – Early CEK documents mention that the Committee was the Council of Workers, Peasants, and Red Army Deputies. (It previously included Cossacks but they largely sided with the Whites and were eliminated.) The following documents will track the career of a Red Army Deputy, Nikolai Ogarkov, later Marshal of the Soviet Union. We will be including 6th, 7th, 8th and candidate document for 11th Convocation.

The standard practice was that the Deputy Commander of a Military district would be elected/selected to be a member of the Supreme Soviet of the Republic. The Military District Commander would represent the Republic in the USSR Supreme Soviet. That is the case here as Ogarkov was promoted to Deputy Commander Belarussian Military District in 1963.

The first pair of pictures is of a document and badge for Belarus 6th Convocation. Note: Soviet (SAVET) spelled with an “A” under changes implemented by Khrushchev. Note also, Ogarkov wears a single star. He was promoted to Lieutenant General during the year. Note also in Belarussian, Nikolai is spelled with an “M.”

[Aharim]

M has only one document for USSR Supreme Soviet, from an early convocation. But there are two houses/Councils to the USSR Supreme Soviet, the Soviet of the Union and the Soviet of Nationalities. Some think of the Soviet of the Union as a higher Soviet but they were intended to be equal. The Chairmen of the two councils alternated leading joint sessions, each council had the same number of chairmen; laws were required to be passed by both houses, etc.

The documents differed between the two, however. The Soviet of the Union had a red/maroon book and Nationalities had a blue book.

For the 7th Convocation, Ogarkov had been promoted to Military District Commander of the Pri-Volskoi Military District, and also promoted in rank.

For the 7th Convocation we have Ogarkov representing a district in the Kuibshev Region to the Soviet of the Union for the USSR. Note added star on his shoulder.

[Aharim]

Soviet of Nationalities - 8th Convocation.

By 1970 Ogarkov had become first deputy chief of staff and been promoted to Colonel General (Oct 1967) (Note picture). For the 8th Convocation he is a member of the Soviet of Nationalities representing a region from th Lithuanian SSR.

Note also the change in Mint Mark to MMD with square top on the D.

[Aharim]

While the original group had documented badges for all convocation 6 - 11, I did not take pictures of each, (at least not that I can find at the moment) because they would be a repeat of those shown already but for number. However, for the 11th Convocation there was a document not previously seen, document for candidate member. This appears to be a pre-election document rather than a lower class of member. At any rate I have seen only one other candidate document ever! By the 11th convocation Marshal Ogarkov was a Marshal and has his Hero Star which are both in the photo on the document. The Lenin Prize does not show, perhaps because of the cut of the picture.

[Aharim]

One clarification, for the guy who has these badges and documents now, the photos are from 1998-1999. I do not have these badges and documents, only the photos. They were part of a display of deputy badges at the Orders and Medals Society of America (OMSA) convention.

[Aharim]

Correction about Presidium badges in M

M does have two pics of Presidium documents. Chuvash 3rd Conv and Abkhazi 1st. See:

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Next more on pin backs.

[Aharim]

Have you looked closely at the sample pinbacks on page 164?

They are all numbered 62!
They all seem to have mint mark MMD with a square top "D" (so called "E" version)!

Sort of leads you to believe that all pin backs are the same. But there is this early "D" type MMD from Ukraine which, maybe its a home made variation but I do not think so.

In addition, I am having trouble getting a photo to show but for that Turkmenistan CEK badge 1.1 listed as screwback, I have seen at least one with a pin. It was marked with Kokoshnik and 88. IF I get the picture to load and fit it will follow.

[Nota Bene]

I don't post in this thread simply because I have nothing to add, but I read it almost religiously. What a wealth of information!

Alexei

[Art]

I agree wholeheartedly Alexei..although this information is way above my head, I did PM Aharim to say thanks and to please keep posting. Fascinating stuff..

[Aharim]

Thanks guys!

Still more on pinbacks - Estonia did their own badges but followed the MD lead for standard pinback with the square catch from the 8th convocation. before that their look similar to the Ukrainian version

The badge below was shown in Likhitsky so this should be sort of familiar.

The T33 is the Tallinn Jewelry works or plant with the second "3" meaning last digit of the year 63.